Family Guy / Atheists

[Panthro]

I've been able to stomach my way through bad Family Guy jokes for a while now, but last night was just too much.  The whole episode was about how it's ridiculous to believe in God.  I saw that the episode was on youtube, so I clicked it to read some of the comments posted by Family Guy fans.  Apparently, they are all atheists. 
I realize that it's difficult for some people to follow Christ.  I totally understand that it's a leap of faith to believe the Jesus truly is the son of God.  However, I honestly cannot understand how someone could not believe in any god.  I posted a comment on youtube challenging the viewers to give up their arrogance, and at least try to find God, and to live their life for Him, instead of for themselves.  As you can imagine, I have been blasted on the comment board there.  I was the only person approaching the topic diplomatically, but my posts are the ones that have been removed from the site.  We can't have that crazy Christian propaganda floating around out there. 
Anyway, I realized that it's difficult to articulate how I just cannot even imagine believing in a world without a god. 
Atheists preach "logic", but I don't see how it's logical to believe that they KNOW that there is no god.  It's illogical that someone could know everything, so how could they possibly know for sure that God doesn't exist?  There are enough evidences for me to feel comfortable in my faith..and I admit that my religion isn't logic-based, it is fueled by faith. 
I don't know what exactly I'm asking by posting this here.  I'm just wondering if anyone has encountered a situation like this. 

[plumbervol]

Back in the Middle Ages when people questioned the Church or even the notion that God did not exist the state rounded them up and burned drowned boiled and torture these folks. In various countries around the world if you do not believe in God in the way they do, or even if you believed in God you were subject to death and persecution.

 Here in America I have watched religious intolerance practiced by Bible Belt citizens against folks who did not worship the way the majority here in Appalachians and the south as a whole practiced/believed. I never noticed in Boston and Ohio if the majority Catholic practiced intolerance against Bible Thumpers, my guess is that they did. I know the Mormons in Utah violate Federal Court orders and continue to allow Children in Public School choirs to practice sing and participate at the Mormon Temple in concerts featuring religious music.

The bottom line is if we allow people the right to practice religion any way that they choose(Short of animal torture and human sacrifice etc.) we have to also accept some media outlet running a show that is in my opinion sacrilegious. That is the price we pay for the freedom we enjoy

[roustabout]

I am not surprised at all. I'm more surprised that you would subject your mind to that garbage for so long.

The bible even predicts all this.

Back in the dark ages it was not about Christ. It was about using the church to execute political rule. governments were tyrannical no matter the religion. The goal of Christ was never to coerce faith through government channels, but to win nations to God.

"Religion" is the greatest evil this world has ever known. it is an opiate for the masses. Whether it is Islam or some hillbilly snake handler. Religion is not what Jesus sought to bring.

PV has a very distorted view that freedom of religion is freedom from faith. Thomas Jefferson instituted days of prayer. Our 1st Justices issued decrees of fasting and prayer.

I'm just wondering if anyone has encountered a situation like this. 

Right here on SPS.
However, I'm a lot less concerned about Atheist, and more concerned about the lukewarm.
Football is the big religion you'll battle on here. There are folks that can tell you the entire roster, even from years past, but can't even name all 10 commandments. They go to church, but if UT or their school moved their games to Sunday morning you'd see real quick where their loyalties lie. It is those folks who have allowed shows like that an audience. those shows don't survive because atheist watch them. They survive because worldly church goers giggle along. In fact, we could bankrupt the pornography industry in this country if church goers would repent of looking at pornography. We could end abortion if church goers would stop treating the murder of the unborn with such indifference.

Look at the impact the homosexual community has had on our culture in the last 50 years. And they are a very small minority. But the fact is that they believe in their cause more than most nominal Christians believe in their own. And therefore they have been able to have a tipping point in spite of the majority.

so, I'm more concerned with those who know there IS a God and refuse to surrender their lives to Him.

[Panthro]

I completely understand that, and I appreciate it.  For instance, I loved that when Mike Huckabee was being riduculed by liberal extremists during one of his stops (while on the campaign tour), he applauded the people screaming at him.  He then pointed out how great it is that we live in a country where they are free to express their disapproval of a political figure.  
I am not one those Christians who go around telling people that they are going to Hell, or how they are ticking off the big man upstairs.  On the other hand, I do feel like it's my responsibility as a Christian to at least represent my beliefs well when they are challenged.  I don't feel comfortable as an in-your-face Christian like some do, but still, I feel like I should at least be active enough to get involved in open conversation, when I see people speaking so adamanly about how they don't belive in any god.  
I enjoy conversations with people from other religions, however, I am incredibly baffled by those who believe in nothing.  I can't imagine how longely that must feel when an atheist feel thankful.  

[plumbervol]

PV has a very distorted view that freedom of religion is freedom from faith.

If you have the freedom to practice your religion as you see fit you have to make room for those that decide that they do not want religion or faith. If you don't you really do not have freedom to practice your religion....

[Dementia_Madness]

We live in a free country...One man believes that everyone should have freedom to believe and express their belief openly.... Another man believes that people should not be subjected to others beliefs, is it possible in a truly free society for both to get their way...and which one in truth is the believer in true freedom? Is it okay to take rights away from some to give rights to others? If so how do you choose, and who gets to choose who to take rights away from and who to give rights to?

[roustabout]

PV,
The founding fathers would give you a good smack.
Freedom of religion is not freedom from religion. People having the right not to beleive is not what we are dealing today. we are dealing with outright attacks on faith, in the guise of "seperation."

Obama supports forcing medical staff to perform abortions when it conflicts with matters of faith.

[Sovereign]

Well we may not live in a perfect society but at least we aren't persecuted to the extreme that the Christians of the Bible where. You know I believe that it might have been harder back then to profess and not be executed or imprisoned but at least there were clear lines about who where truly Christians and who didn't believe. that is one way to weed out the majority of those saying they are Christian.  Here we are talking about Atheists who persecute our Lord to get a laugh and yet I believe that more individuals will go to hell falsely believing they are Christians. these are the lukewarm.

Rous I know it looks bad at this time but trust me we have no idea what having it bad really means to Christians in the present. we may feel outnumbered but.....

We will have the ultimate victory.

[Dementia_Madness]

"He" will have the ultimate voctory, and we through faith, will get to share in that victory.

[Panthro]

Mondo, your line about how to annoy a liberal reminded me of when all of the atheists were attacking me yesterday.  They insisted that they were the sane ones because they view the world logically.  This is where I struggled in convincing them that God does exist without being able to use scientific facts. 
Sure there are tons of evidences to prove the existence of God, but for someone who is dead-set on not believing, it's as hard to prove as it is that a tree makes noise when it falls in an empty forest. 
I understand what you mean about the lukewarm.  I was a lukewarm myself for quite a while.  I can understand a lukewarm, or even a Jew or even a Hindu for that matter.  These people all at least recognize that there is a god, and that life should be lived for Him, instead of just living for yourself.  They may not do it well, but still they know what is up, and how they should be living.  An atheist is just "mind-bottling" (Ricky Bobby) to me.  Their argument is that it isn't logical to believe in God.  I think that it's illogical to believe that there is no god or divine power. 

[Sovereign]

"He" will have the ultimate victory, and we through faith, will get to share in that victory.

Yes.. I guess I should have elaborated more....... althought I have never heard of this "voctory" you mention..jk

[Panthro]

I think that's something from Viking Quest.