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« on: July 16, 2009, 08:45:10 PM »

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$10,000 Cash Offered to Nat'l RTL
from American RTL to name 'one' pro-life justice

See this also at Yahoo Denver Post CovenantNews USA Today etc.

"American Right To Life is offering attorney James Bopp $10,000 for National RTL," said the group's president Brian Rohrbough, "if he can name a single justice on the current U.S. Supreme Court who has ever written, or joined in an opinion, that the unborn child has a right to life, whether in a majority ruling or a dissent."

ARTL check to NRTL

"In 1981, after president Ronald Reagan agreed he would sign federal personhood legislation for the unborn, National Right to Life and their longtime attorney James Bopp actually opposed that effort claiming they supported a states' rights approach," says the group's site AmericanRTL.org. "A quarter century later notice that NRTL and Bopp have long opposed all state personhood efforts."

On May 13, Colorado pro-lifers turned in 131,000 signatures exceeding by 55,000 the number needed to force a statewide vote to acknowledge in law the personhood of the unborn child.

"National Right to Life has misled the pro-life community to think that this is the wrong time to advocate personhood because we need one more Justice on the Supreme Court to have a pro-life majority," said Rohrbough. "But if we added a Justice who would uphold the right to life of the unborn, then we would have only one such Justice. The failed long-term strategy of regulating the killing of a fetus has left America without a single Justice who knows that it's wrong to kill an unborn baby; National RTL's compromise will never produce a pro-life Supreme Court."

Even Dr. James Dobson, a supporter of the failed regulation strategy admits that: "Ending partial-birth abortion... does not save a single human life." And in an article about NRTL's failed PBA ban, Notre Dame Law School's professor emeritus Charles Rice said, "Every justice now on the court accepts the Roe holding that the unborn child is a non-person... The situation remains as described by Justice John Paul Stevens in Planned Parenthood v. Casey." For Stevens had written that "the Court... rejected, the argument ‘that the fetus is a "person"'. ... there was no dissent..." And Clarence Thomas wrote in his Stenberg dissent that "a State may permit abortion," and Antonin Scalia wrote in Casey, "The states may, if they wish, permit abortion-on-demand..."

"American Right to Life will give a $10,000 cash prize to National if their general counsel James Bopp can name even a single U.S. Supreme Court Justice who has ever written or joined in any ruling or dissent advocating the personhood of the unborn," said Steve Curtis, ARTL's vice president and former chairman of the Colorado Republican Party. "To make their strategy appear successful, National Right To Life has misled the pro-life movement into believing that abortion accomplices like Samuel Alito, John Roberts, Thomas and Scalia are pro-life."

In 2002 Scalia said, "I will... strike down a law that is the opposite of Roe v. Wade. ... One wants no state to be able to prohibit abortion and the other one wants every state to have to prohibit abortion, and they're both wrong..." In 2004 Scalia claimed, "Take the abortion issue... there's something to be said for both sides." And on April 9, 2008 Scalia said, "You want the right to abortion? Create it the way most rights are created in a democracy. Persuade your fellow citizens it's a good idea - and pass a law." And then Scalia even joked about the actual killing of the child by using the phrase, "split the baby," to much laughter, from the students, and from himself.

"National RTL claims success in Antonin Scalia but he is not pro-life; like all the Republicans on the Court, he is a legal positivist, which is a courtroom moral relativist," Rohrbough said. "Like their Dred Scott counterpart that ruled a black man could be owned as property, the current Republican Supreme Court is wicked and will only learn about the right to life of the unborn from the advancing personhood wing of the pro-life movement."

Contact:
National RTL can contact Donna Ballentine
1-888-888-ARTL (2785)
office@AmericanRTL.org

http://americanrighttolife.org/news/artl-offers-natl-rtl-10000
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2009, 09:11:37 PM »

don't you think roberts, scalia, and thomas are for life. they all come from strong orthodox catholic backgrounds that stressed the sanctity of life. alito is still a wild card on this issue.
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2009, 09:19:31 PM »



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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2009, 09:31:15 PM »

don't you think roberts, scalia, and thomas are for life. they all come from strong orthodox catholic backgrounds that stressed the sanctity of life. alito is still a wild card on this issue.

Muhammad's mother was a Christian....100% of the first Christian's came from strong orthodox Jewish families. 100% of the justices mentioned above have issued verdicts which calls for a right to abortion in some cases. To be pro-life means you think that a human baby is alive before birth and deserves to be protected, IF you believe that one baby does not deserve to be protected, are you pro-life or pro-choice? Pro-life with exceptions means pro-choice, anytime you create a law that says "....and then you can kill the baby." It is not a pro-life law. It is MORE evil to say you believe that a pre-born infant is human life, and say it's okay to kill some onf them, than it is to say you do not believe they are human being's and kill some of them. To that George W. Bush, Mitt Romney, Obama, Ron Paul, John Mccain and 100% of the justices on the SC are indeed more evil than Flummoxed Lummox.

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It was a Republican Supreme Court which legalized abortion, and a Republican-nominated judge even wrote Roe v. Wade.  The current Supreme Court keeps abortion legal with seven of the nine current Justices nominated by Republican presidents.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2009, 09:38:42 PM »



How Should We Then Live? EP1 The Roman Age 2of4
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2009, 09:51:35 PM »

Very informative, and very much appreciated videos my friend.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2009, 10:29:06 PM »

Very informative, and very much appreciated videos my friend.

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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2009, 10:30:11 PM »

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I will boil it down to one question. If our rights come from the state to the people, can the state take back those rights and exercise complete authority over the people in economics, healthcare resource allocation, energy consumption, education, and private ownership? your answer will be a DIREcT result of your world view. Ideas have consequences in the real world. i have come to realize most lucidly in recent days that this issue of abortion is vitally important not only for the reason that abortion is the taking of innocent life but the right to life is the "gateway" issue to all other rights. if the state can capriciously and in an arbitrary fashion not recognize the fundamental right to life in such an illogical fashion (from a legal perspective Roe is an illogical nightmare) , it can also NOT recognize any and all civil rights of man including the bill of rights which will eventually lead to a totalitarian state. one would think the last century showed man what a nightmare a totaltrian state can be and how important it was to avoid such a nightmare.



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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2009, 02:40:37 PM »

I believe that (and the constitution agrees) That some of our rights are natural rights, that do not come from Government, I believe also there are legal rights that are granted by Government, which must not infringe upon our natural rights, and in fact must only serve to protect them. Example, your right to life is an inalienable right that the Government should not infringe upon without due cause, but you right to remain silent when placed under arrest is a legal protection, your right to defend yourself is a natural right, but your right to carry a concealed weapon with a license is a legal right.
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2009, 02:49:54 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2009, 03:08:36 PM »

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i have come to realize most lucidly in recent days that this issue of abortion is vitally important not only for the reason that abortion is the taking of innocent life but the right to life is the "gateway" issue to all other rights.

That is the thing about ABORTION, if the Government says you have no right to life, if they succeed in granting themselves that power, and we give it to them, then by that means they can rob you of 100% of your other legal and natural rights. It's not simply a religious issue, as some evil doers here would like it to be, these narrow minded individuals oppose it not in truth because they care about ANYONES rights, their opposition is a desire to keep certain ideals out of the issue, and to fight against beliefs rather than for rights.

The right to life is THE MOST IMPORTANT right we have, from which ALL other rights spring, if that right is not recognized, or desired, then by no means can we say we have any rights at all, save by the will, and desires of what others tell us we have. We cannot and will not be free, ever.

I am glad you have come to realize this, my prayer is that ALL of America will wake up to this tragedy, this is an evil thing we are doing that makes the Holocaust look like a picnic, Nazi germany look like a paradise, and Hitler look like a pope. America and the world are building great amounts of wickedness, it will not be long before and I believe that some problems we face are truthfully because "America's chickens" indeed come home to roost. When a government teaches it's people that life has no value, we have things like prom night dumpster babies, and Columbine.
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2009, 03:31:25 PM »

Right to life is still the majority position of this country.   
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