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« on: September 20, 2009, 03:35:58 PM »

The Jewish New Year. The day God opens the Book of Life and decides their fate for the year.

I have grown to the point that I consider Christianity "Judaism evolved" and I am working on attempting to put Jewish Culture, tradition and its values  into my life. I am sure the religious will not be glad to hear this.

I think it is a shame that Christianity has walked away from our Jewish Heritage and considers ourself separate from our roots. I don't want to move to Israel and I sure as hell do not want to base Foereign Policy on Judaism, but I think we have all forgotten that Jesus was Jewish and that until around 700 AD the world viewed Christianity as a form of Judaism. I see no conflict because I accept Jesus as the Messiah promised by the early Prophets of Judaism and I understand after the fall of the Temple in 70AD that present day Judaism evolved to a different creature. If anything Judaism is more nationalistic and Christianity has taken the One God religion far away from Hebrew Nationalism and ethnicity


So to all I say sound the shofar 100 times, enjoy a honey cake/cheesecake, eat your carrots(chezer) celery and raisins and fish for fertility. Enjoy festival and do a thorough accounting of your life and Leshana tova tikateiv v'techateim to everyone!!
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2009, 05:31:50 PM »

Is "Christianity" a religion? Who are these "religious" you speak of?

It is great for ANYONE to try and grasp an understanding of the Jewish faith, Can Christians truly have an understanding of what their OWN faith is about if they lack a knowledge of the people and history of which CHRIST came from.

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The essential vice, the utmost evil, is Pride. Unchastity, anger, greed, drunkenness, and all that, are mere flea bites in comparison: it was through Pride that the devil became the devil: Pride leads to every other vice: it is the complete anti-God state of mind… As long as you are proud you cannot know God. A proud man is always looking down on things and people: and, of course, as long as you are looking down, you cannot see something that is above you… The real test of being in the presence of God is that you either forget about yourself altogether or see yourself as a small, dirty object. It is better to forget about yourself altogether.

He must increase, but I must decrease. This is the ultimate mission of our lives. Christ MUST be LIFTED. We MUST be lowered. He is glorified. We are forgotten. If we boast, we boast only in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2009, 10:59:34 PM »

I used Religous as a noun!! per merriam-webster: a member of a religious order under vows. Church Authority

Christianity even with its many sects has to be considered a relgion
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2009, 11:33:48 PM »

There are Christian religions, but there is also that aspect of Christianity that goes far beyond religion. The problem today is that MOST people define religion in a very broad stroke, which all to often deals with what WE DO, legalism, and very little with what Christ Did, does, and will do. There is a religion of Christianity that is not the image that most people make it into in today's pop culture driven society.
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2009, 11:46:17 AM »

PV, it could be you are missing it because of the dirty ole protestants you scorn.
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2009, 12:57:00 PM »

Roust, I doubt that. RC was an actual State and "world government" until around the 12th century. Lutheranism was the Germanic and Scandinavian universal church as was the Eastern orthadox church for the Eastern Europe countries after the schism. The Anglo church was the Brits church  and those that fled to the new world in the early years were more refugees from English religion persecution than they were from Roman Catholics. All the many churches had in common was ethnic roots and a common enemy the Roman Church.

I have never spoken with an HONEST Protestant that would not profess a belief in divine destiny or the thought of a new Jerusalem mentality when addressing the American Protestant Christian experience.

That was my point about the Jewish Faith and its loss of spirituality and growth into an ethnic nationalistic entity.

Even the Protestants over the years that embrace the Old Testament gravitate towards the Thou Shall Nots post Torah vs the experience of grasping for the touch of God or at least the longing to embrace a spiritual touch from God. The Jewish mindset was to move on and do not even mention the name of G_D as it is a sin to God but to strive to walk his path and follow his order and to pray for his touch!
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That Which Doesn't Break Me, Only Makes Me Stronger
Reflections on 12 years of Catholic Education.

It is a bit embarrassing to have been concerned with the human problem all one's life and find at the end that one has no more to offer by way of advice than "try to be a little kinder".
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2009, 02:41:26 PM »

There are many protestant movements that embrace the Old Testament in regards to the feasts, etc. If you want to follow through on what you are talking about, you will find it more manifest in the protestant movement. It is the protestant TV networks that carry the Messianic Jewish shows. Did you know there are quite a few completed Jews right here in Knoxville? Some leading large congregations. Trinity Chapel.

 

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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2009, 09:09:02 PM »

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About Zola

Zola Levitt was the most beloved and well known Messianic Jewish Bible teacher and Middle East commentator of his day. He was a Jewish Christian thoroughly educated in the synagogues and brought to the Messiah in 1971. He held music degrees from Duquesne University and Indiana University (doctoral coursework completed), and an Honorary Th.D. from Faith Bible College. He played the Oboe, English Horn, Recorder, and Piano.

He is best known as the former host of the weekly national television program Zola Levitt Presents, and was formerly the host of two top-rated radio talk shows — The Heart of the Matter in Dallas, and the nationally syndicated Zola Levitt Live.

Zola was also a widely published author with more than 50 books in several languages, and the composer of some 200 spiritual songs and personally performed on most of his albums.

Zola acted as lecturer and tour host on more than 80 trips to Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, the areas of the seven churches, Mediterranean islands, European capitals, etc. He formerly taught a course on “Christ in the Old Testament” at Dallas Baptist University and gave seminars at other education institutions.

Zola Levitt, founder and patriarch of Zola Levitt Ministries, died peacefully on April 19, 2006 at his home in Dallas, Texas, following a courageous two-month battle with lung cancer. He was 67 years old.

He is survived by his beloved wife Sandra; a son Mark, who takes the lead in administrating this ever expanding world wide ministry; a son Aaron, who participates behind the scenes, helping with writing, editing and more; and a stepson Will. Together with an old associate Jeffrey Seif, who was asked to take the teaching helm and serve as the principal spokesperson, with Ken Berg, his faithful producer of 28 years, and with the help of a dedicated staff of professionals, the Levitt legacy continues, as it will until the coming of our Lord.

About Jeffrey Seif

Dr. Seif is Zola’s successor at the teaching helm of Zola Levitt Ministries and is the ministry’s principal spokesperson. He is teaching on television, writing books and articles, and ministering in churches across America.

With Zola, Jeff previously co-created our correspondence course, The Institute of Jewish-Christian Studies.

Jeff has a master’s degree and doctorate from Southern Methodist University, Dallas. He has been a Bible college professor for the last seventeen years, teaching over 400 students each semester. He has also been a pastor with at least four churches spanning over twenty years.
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2009, 05:02:04 PM »

Zola was great.

Perry Stone is one who really delves into this stuff.
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2009, 08:51:46 AM »

Just flipping channels through the faith stations last night and can't tell how many there were celebrating the Hebrew heritage. One was even promoting a feast of tabernacles event.
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2009, 05:53:45 PM »

We have had many a Sunday school class teaching us of the Hebrew faith and history. I have also enjoyed some great programing by some of my favorite teachers on The "Judeo" past of Christianity. As a matter of fact I cannot think of ONE evangelical that I know of who has not embraced the desire to learn of Christs kin and the world and faith of those whom from which God has brought the salvation of the world.
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2009, 11:36:40 PM »

When my youngest son was preparing for first Communion the practice of the Seder Meal was taught to them and we all gathered(parents and Children) and participated in a Seder Meal. One of the children's parent was Middle Eastern and they prepared the Lamb(Wonderful  ) The connection between the Jewish tradition of Seder and the Christian tradition of the Last Summer and Communion drives home the jewishness of Christianity. Jesus referred to as Rabbi and the symbolic presentation of Jesus as the new Moses creates a belief and value structure that IMO begs all of us to get in touch with our inner Jew....... 
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That Which Doesn't Break Me, Only Makes Me Stronger
Reflections on 12 years of Catholic Education.

It is a bit embarrassing to have been concerned with the human problem all one's life and find at the end that one has no more to offer by way of advice than "try to be a little kinder".
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