Census Worked Hanged in KY

[NCVol]

As of last night, the police hadn't ruled on the cause.  None of that story came from official sources.  Weaver was the guy who found the body while visiting the graveyard during a family reunion. 

For whatever reason, the authorities seem to be wanting to downplay the situation for now.  

[roustabout]

Yes, I'd say they are wanting to down play it. There are some wierd sicko isolationists in them thar hills.

It is likely a McVeigh like nut job.

Sadly FL tries to label those here with wackos that would perpetrate a crime like this. That is sick in and of itself. I assure you anyone that would do this to a man, has nothing in common with my politics, faith, or morality. Trying to use a tragedy like this to throw political stones speaks volumes about your own character.

[NCVol]

roust, the problem is crazy people like Michelle Bachmann say things like this.

Bachmann: Take this into consideration. If we look at American history, between 1942 and 1947, the data that was collected by the census bureau was handed over to the FBI and other organizations, at the request of President Roosevelt, and that’s how the Japanese were rounded up and put into the internment camps. I’m not saying that’s what the Administration is planning to do. But I am saying that private, personal information that was given to the census bureau in the 1940s was used against Americans to round them up and put the Japanese in internment camps.

And then this dumbshiate woman claims very publicly that she will NOT answer the census questions beyond how many, and Glenn Beck and many others spread nonsense about the anti-American, nazi like activities of ACORN who are helping with the census, and that Obama really is leading us down the path of Nazi Germany with death panels....

And then a Census worker gets killed in what is right now an act of domestic terrorism, with the killer intending and succeeding in linking the murder to an anti-government stance and putting a scare in anyone who might help with the census. 

So no, nobody thinks that YOU or anyone on here is a killer, but what is true is Bachman and Beck and many others are pushing a message that is arguably fuel for the crazies out there.  Maybe this murder has NOTHING to do with census and is a simple case of the person seeing something he shouldn't - whatever the actual cause, the message is intended to terrorize and if the right wingers don't want to be slimed with it, condemn irresponsible talk like that of Michelle Bachman so there is no doubt that the GOP doesn't actually believe the Census is a commie plot to put republicans in internment camps. 

Leave the crazy stuff to the crazies, not Congresswomen and Fox News hosts getting paid 10s of millions. 

[Dementia_Madness]

I was born in Bell County Kentucky OMG, I lived about half my early years there the rest I lived in Claiborne County Tennessee until age 16 or 17 where we moved to Floyd County Kentucky for a couple of years. I have spent some time in Clay County.

I would bet that this murder was actually drug related. There has been a spike in drug arrests there lately, and it could be that This man happened to ask some people the wrong question at the wrong time. I agree that there is plenty of anti-government feelings in much of the poor peoples of the area, and there is still much suspicion over some stranger (if he was unknown) in the area snooping around. To be honest, I have read very little of this story and am unaware of much of the details. I do know Clay County is a strong republican area, and yes there are lots and lots of white people, few minorities, and strong racial feelings.

[Just Win]

this is truly tragic. whoever did this needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extnet of the law. is this not one of those highgrowth marijuana counties in Kentucky we frequently hear about? i just can't help but think we have a government given a constitutional charge to take a census and it can't even do that correctly and protect the people it hires to conduct the census. then you turn around and you tell me you want to turn 1/6 th of the economy over to them in the form of our health care delivery system. please! can we be serious for a moment?

[NCVol]

You have a very bizarre mind that concludes it is the governments fault that a worker taking a census was brutally murdered.

[Just Win]

You have a very bizarre mind that concludes it is the governments fault that a worker taking a census was brutally murdered.

again, if you can't even take the census and protect those you send out how can you run the nation's health care system?

[LTC]

NCVol, you will never see a wingnut condemn the crazy talk of people like bachman and beck...it is what they love...hatred and craziness.  You will however, see them do as just blowing has done....condemn the government ...first condemning it for spending too much and then condemning the governmentr for not spending MORE by sending armed guards with census workers to protect them.   They truly hate our government.  It can be seen in almost everything thiing they say and do. 

[NCVol]

And of course if even ONE Census worker was escorted by an armed guard, my gosh, the crazies would go off the deep end. 

The weird thing is they DON'T hate government, they just hate it when it works for poor people.  When Bush was detaining and torturing and bombing and wiretapping, hey, it was an awesome thing when an all powerful government taking away our liberties to "keep us safe."  When Bush was running up five Trillion in additional debt, when Reagan was tripling the debt, these people LOVED them for it.  Just so long as the money goes to billionaires and corporate farmers and the military industrial complex and tax cuts for the top 1%, hey, it's all good. 

ACORN's employees get in trouble and 80% of the Congress including the "liberal" democrats votes to cut them off from their huge $53 million over 10 years funding stream.  Halliburton and related subs can kill 20 service men with faulty work, defraud the government out of hundreds of millions, and it's not even a ripple on Capitol Hill.  That's really all you need to know about this so called distrust of government. 

Hey, these guys can't even get worked up about a for profit corporate assassination squad, but they can see the end of the world from a census taker with ties to ACORN.  It's all American to turn war and death and destruction into billions in profits, but anti-American to work for the poor in the inner city.  There you go, "conservative" philosophy in a nutshell. 

The disconnect between actual threats to our democracy and what the crazies decide to protest is just an amazing thing to see. 

[roustabout]

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Bachmann: Take this into consideration. If we look at American history, between 1942 and 1947, the data that was collected by the census bureau was handed over to the FBI and other organizations, at the request of President Roosevelt, and that’s how the Japanese were rounded up and put into the internment camps. I’m not saying that’s what the Administration is planning to do. But I am saying that private, personal information that was given to the census bureau in the 1940s was used against Americans to round them up and put the Japanese in internment camps.

Yeh, I'm sure some inbred twit is hanging on her every word.
You are being ridiciulous. First, is the info true? Yes or no. Were Japanese rounded up? you bet. Did they use census info? Honestly I don't know.

To say that a statement like this led someone or even contributed to this crime is absolutely RIDICULOUS!!!! Hey, let's get the thought police out. I am sure there are people like you and others who would use such insane thinking to impose censhorship. But maybe I'm just a paranoid, wacko, fundie.

[LTC]

What is not really ridiculous, but totally naive, is believing that crazy statements from the likes of bachman and beck and rush DON'T contribute to something like that!

[Just Win]

What is not really ridiculous, but totally naive, is believing that crazy statements from the likes of bachman and beck and rush DON'T contribute to something like that!

i am amazed this thread has stayed at the top of the stack for discussion for so long. i suppose it points the tyranny of the wacko job liberal minority that pollute the board incessant w/ inanity. don't get me wrong. no question this murder is a tragic event. and as stated above the perpetrator should be prosecuted to the FULLEST extent the law will allow. you have my FUll agreement on this one. however we have the middle east on the verge of exploding in nuclear war due to this administration's callow inattention and naivete and we want to talk about an upset pot grower having his marijuana field discovered by a census worker the federal government did not show due diligence in protecting while performing his duties. how about a tad bit of sanity and priorities in discussion threads on the board. i am all for debating the lunacy of liberalism and its pernicious effect on culture but first things first friend.