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« on: February 08, 2010, 03:19:54 PM »

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/rep-john-murtha-iraq-293937.html

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HARRISBURG, Pa. — U.S. Rep. John Murtha, an influential critic of the Iraq War whose congressional career was shadowed by questions about his ethics, died Monday. He was 77.

The Pennsylvania Democrat had been suffering complications from gallbladder surgery. He died at Virginia Hospital Center in Arlington, Va., spokesman Matthew Mazonkey said.
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2010, 07:10:15 PM »

I hope the deceased members of K/3/1 Marines give him a proper reception.
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2010, 07:15:38 PM »

Condolences to the family.  May God comfort them.

My respects to Rep. Murtha for his service to his country.

My relief that we have another traitor out of office.  Another seat up for Conservative grabs.
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010, 07:42:41 PM »

Condolences to the family.  May God comfort them.

My respects to Rep. Murtha for his service to his country.

My relief that we have another traitor out of office.  Another seat up for Conservative grabs.

What a despicable thing to say about a man who served his country honorably. You and the rest of your chickenhawk neocon buddies (you too OMG) aren't worthy to be in the same room as this man. 

Murtha was an Eagle Scout as a boy. He voluntarily joined the Marines. Ten years after he was honorably discharged he volunteered again to serve in the Vietnam War, where he received the Bronze Star, two Purple Hearts and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallant. When he retired after 25 years of service to his country he received the Navy Distinguished Service Medal. So spare me the "traitor" you asshole.

How dare you internet warriors criticize a true American hero because he didn't agree with your inane war in Iraq (note: neither does the majority of the free world agree with you). You people have no shame. You're an embarrassment.
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2010, 07:52:03 PM »

And after he slandered the Marines at Haditha, I lost what little respect I had left for the man.

May he rest in peace.



Take a poll among Marines AV and I'll bet you'll find a vast majority are raising a toast tonight vs. shedding any tears.
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2010, 09:03:09 PM »

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Take a poll among Marines AV and I'll bet you'll find a vast majority are raising a toast tonight vs. shedding any tears.

Take a poll among the families of the 24 men, women, and children who were gunned down at Haditha (and at least 15 of them were innocent civilians) and I'll bet you'll find a vast majority don't have a favorable opinion of the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines.
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2010, 11:12:01 PM »

Still living in the erroneous past eh AV?

After a complete investigation, facts revealed that the Haditha incident was part of a planned ambush by insurgents that used civilians as human shields, and that despite the claims of Rep. Murtha, this was not murder but the tragic result of a firefight in which U.S. Marines were honorably defending themselves.

So Murtha used the Marines in question to further his political ends, before an investigation even took place.  Since, the charges have been dropped against all the Marines involved, one was found not guilty and Murtha looked like a complete for what he did.

This clown called these soldiers "cold blooded murderers" before he even had all the facts.  Going off half-cocked without all the facts...  That's a liberal trademark isn't it AV???  I mean I see a lot of similarities between Murtha's actions and your limp wristed attempt to defend him here.  You don't even know what you're talking about...

There is nothing at all honorable about Rep. Murtha.
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2010, 07:30:07 AM »

His death makes passing health care even harder.
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2010, 09:21:08 AM »

This clown called these soldiers "cold blooded murderers" before he even had all the facts.  Going off half-cocked without all the facts...  That's a liberal trademark isn't it AV???  I mean I see a lot of similarities between Murtha's actions and your limp wristed attempt to defend him here.  You don't even know what you're talking about...

My thoughts exactly. Murtha's remarks were disgusting.

I really don't understand why FL wouldn't know the history of this event.

Take a poll among the families of the 24 men, women, and children who were gunned down at Haditha (and at least 15 of them were innocent civilians) and I'll bet you'll find a vast majority don't have a favorable opinion of the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines.

What a despicable thing to say about men who served their country honorably. You and the rest of your blame the military first buddies aren't worthy to be in the same room as these men.

Hey FL, do some research before you make ANOTHER post regarding something you know nothing about.
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2010, 09:34:02 AM »

Condolences to the family and friends...I am sorry for their loss, It is impossible to adequately express my sincere sympathy at this most difficult time.
 

on the brighter side

Dems now face losing another long held seat

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/09/john-murtha-barack-obama-democrats

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His death came on a day that saw Barack Obama's poll ratings fall further. A Marist poll found that only 44% of voters surveyed approved of his job performance, down 2% on December. More alarming for Democratic strategists, 57% of independents disapprove of his performance.

Murtha's death will have a negligible impact on the arithmetic of the House, where the Democrats have an overwhelming majority, unlike in the Senate. But another defeat in the spring would add to the sense of panic among Democrats in the run-up to the Congressional mid-term elections in November.


Some libs will be sure to point out that even if the seat goes to a republican this doesn't change the "power" the dems have right now, and this is true, however it could be a harbinger of things to come in coming months congressional mid-terms.
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2010, 01:48:38 PM »

Trust me DM, Obama feels the political rope tightening around his neck.  Losing seats to the Grim Reaper doesn't help his agenda at all.  The Dems are divided because America has spoken.  They said in one strong voice "we don't want socialized medicine" "we don't want cap and trade" "we don't want open borders" "we don't want more stimulus" and "we don't want more bailouts".

The house of cards is caving in because moderate democrats don't have a stomach to face the blood-letting they'll face if they follow Obama's agenda.  Murtha passing is another card in the deck folding.
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2010, 07:33:43 PM »

Still living in the erroneous past eh AV?

After a complete investigation, facts revealed that the Haditha incident was part of a planned ambush by insurgents that used civilians as human shields, and that despite the claims of Rep. Murtha, this was not murder but the tragic result of a firefight in which U.S. Marines were honorably defending themselves.

So Murtha used the Marines in question to further his political ends, before an investigation even took place.  Since, the charges have been dropped against all the Marines involved, one was found not guilty and Murtha looked like a complete for what he did.

This clown called these soldiers "cold blooded murderers" before he even had all the facts.  Going off half-cocked without all the facts...  That's a liberal trademark isn't it AV???  I mean I see a lot of similarities between Murtha's actions and your limp wristed attempt to defend him here.  You don't even know what you're talking about...

There is nothing at all honorable about Rep. Murtha.

"Since, the charges have been dropped against all the Marines involved"

Wrong. You're entitled to your opinion, but not to your own set of facts. Staff Sargeant Frank Wuterich's charges have not been dropped. He is awaiting trial on negligent homicide.

Fact: On November 19, 2005 24 Iraqi men, women, and children were gunned down, most of whom were noncombatant civilians.

Time Magazine's investigation found that the Marine's account of events was not accurate and that evidence supports accusations that the Marine's deliberately shot civilians, including unarmed women and children.

A nine year-old Iraqi who witnessed the incident said this, ""I couldn't see their faces very well - only their guns sticking in to the doorway. I watched them shoot my grandfather, first in the chest and then in the head. Then they killed my granny."

Fact: The Marines involved first claimed the victims died from shrapnel from a roadside bomb.That turned out to be a lie. Victims were shot in the head and at close range.

Fact: The Marine Corps paid $38,000 to the families of 15 of the dead civilians. Why? If they did nothing wrong, why in hades would they pay money to the victims' families?

Fact: On March 19, 2006, U.S. military officials confirmed that contrary to the initial report, U.S. Marines, not Iraqi insurgents, killed 15 civilians. Again, the Marines involved claimed the victims died from shrapnel, testimony that has since been shown to be false.

Fact: On June 2, 2006 a US military investigation concluded that "the 24 unarmed Iraqis—including children as young as two years old and women[—were killed by 12 members of Kilo Company in the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division."

Source: Wikipedia

You Bush myrmidons can sugarcoat this all you want. Jack Murtha was dead on with his comments and about what a disaster the war in Iraq is. Although the military, as a whole, acts with class, valor, and courage, in this particular incident a small group of vigilante thugs crossed the line. They murdered innocent civilians and you know it. They are a disgrace to the thousands of honorable men and women who serve our country well.
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