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« on: February 15, 2010, 10:10:53 AM »

Since everyone here is so into global warming/climate change, I think we need a section just for it. Since no one posts in the Landfill any more, I say use that section for the GW section.
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 10:24:25 AM »

Maybe just put all the "settled science" and "AGW is real" threads there?

Seems appropriate.

 
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2010, 10:31:25 AM »

This is true OMG, man made global warming junk science is indeed worthy of a landfill.

I think that IF we did move all the global warming threads to their own place it would be very harmful for the liberals case, as the mountain of evidence against AGW would be extremely apparent, I am all for it, but I think the Liberals would fight the ideal....I could be wrong, they are not always the sharpest nails in the box.....they might actually go for it as well.

However this might start a new precedent and the next thing you know there will be a section for the fake science of evolution as well.

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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2010, 01:02:25 PM »

This is true OMG, man made global warming junk science is indeed worthy of a landfill.

I think that IF we did move all the global warming threads to their own place it would be very harmful for the liberals case, as the mountain of evidence against AGW would be extremely apparent, I am all for it, but I think the Liberals would fight the ideal....I could be wrong, they are not always the sharpest nails in the box.....they might actually go for it as well.

However this might start a new precedent and the next thing you know there will be a section for the fake science of evolution as well.

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This is true OMG, man made global warming junk smoking causes cancer science is indeed worthy of a landfill.

I think that IF we did move all the global warming smoking is unhealthy threads to their own place it would be very harmful for the liberals case, as the mountain of evidence against AGW tobacco causing cancer would be extremely apparent, I am all for it, but I think the Liberals would fight the ideal....I could be wrong, they are not always the sharpest nails in the box.....they might actually go for it as well.

However this might start a new precedent and the next thing you know there will be a section for the fake science of evolution as well.

Fixed.
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2010, 01:13:52 PM »

Here are just a few select statements that answer common objections or misconceptions to global warming.


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"It's the sun"
In the last 35 years of global warming, the sun has shown a slight cooling trend. Sun and climate have been going in opposite directions.

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"There is no consensus"
That humans are causing global warming is the position of the Academies of Science from 19 countries plus many scientific organisations that study climate science. More specifically, 97% of climate scientists actively publishing climate papers endorse the consensus position.

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"It hasn't warmed since 1998"
The planet has continued to accumulate heat since 1998 - global warming is still happening. Nevertheless, surface temperatures show much internal variability due to heat exchange between the ocean and atmosphere. 1998 was an unusually hot year due to a strong El Nino.

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"It's freaking cold!"
Since the mid 1970s, global temperatures have been warming at around 0.2 degrees Celsius per decade. However, weather imposes its own dramatic ups and downs over the long term trend. We expect to see record cold temperatures even during global warming. Nevertheless over the last decade, daily record high temperatures occurred twice as often as record lows. This tendency towards hotter days is expected to increase as global warming continues into the 21st Century.

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"1934 - hottest year on record"
1934 is the hottest year on record in the USA which only comprises 2% of the globe. According to NASA temperature records, the hottest year on record globally is 2005.

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"It's just a natural cycle"
The 1500 year cycles, known as Dansgaard-Oeschger events, are localized to the northern hemisphere and accompanied with cooling in the southern hemisphere. In contrast, current global warming is occuring in both hemispheres and particularly throughout the world's oceans, indicating a significant energy imbalance.

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"Human CO2 is a tiny % of CO2 emissions"
The CO2 that nature emits (from the ocean and vegetation) is balanced by natural absorptions (again by the ocean and vegetation). Therefore human emissions upset the natural balance, rising CO2 to levels not seen in at least 800,000 years. In fact, human emit 26 gigatonnes of CO2 per year while CO2 in the atmosphere is rising by only 15 gigatonnes per year - much of human CO2 emissions is being absorbed by natural sinks.

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There's no empirical evidence that humans are causing global warming"
Direct observations find that CO2 is rising sharply due to human activity. Satellite and surface measurements find less energy is escaping to space at CO2 absorption wavelengths. Ocean and surface temperature measurements find the planet continues to accumulate heat. This gives a line of empirical evidence that human CO2 emissions are causing global warming.

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"Volcanoes emit more CO2 than humans"
Volcanoes emit around 0.3 billion tonnes of CO2 per year. This is about 1% of human CO2 emissions which is around 29 billion tonnes per year.

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"Humans are too insignificant to affect global climate"
Atmospheric CO2 levels are rising by 15 gigatonnes per year. Humans are emitting 26 gigatonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere. Humans are dramatically altering the composition of our climate.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 01:15:33 PM »

ANP INVESTIGATION: How to Spin Global Warming
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2010, 01:19:43 PM »

Since everyone here is so into global warming/climate change, I think we need a section just for it. Since no one posts in the Landfill any more, I say use that section for the GW section.
MRM,

I think the reason it is generating so much interest on the board is due to the enormity of the scientific hoax it has become. I can think of no greater fraud propagated upon man in the modern era tan this global warming hoax. We have been told for over 30 years we are destroying the planet simply by breathing and now we find out it was all a scam based on fraud.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2010, 01:45:07 PM »

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I think the reason it is generating so much interest on the board is due to the enormity of the scientific hoax it tobacco causing cancer has become. I can think of no greater fraud propagated upon man in the modern era tan this global warming cigarettes are unhealthy hoax. We have been told for over 30 years we are destroying the planet in danger of dying from lung cancer simply by breathing smoking and now we find out it was all a scam based on fraud.

Just Wind, the tobacco industry's favorite tool in the 1950s and 60s ... and the petroleum industry's favorite tool in the 21st century.

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