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« on: February 15, 2010, 12:19:49 PM »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html#ixzz0fYiBuiPa

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   * Data for vital 'hockey stick graph' has gone missing
    * There has been no global warming since 1995
    * Warming periods have happened before - but NOT due to man-made changes


Professor Phil Jones

Data: Professor Phil Jones admitted his record keeping is 'not as good as it should be'

The academic at the centre of the ‘Climategate’ affair, whose raw data is crucial to the theory of climate change, has admitted that he has trouble ‘keeping track’ of the information.

Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom of Information requests is that he may have actually lost the relevant papers.

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Asked about whether he lost track of data, Professor Jones said: ‘There is some truth in that. We do have a trail of where the weather stations have come from but it’s probably not as good as it should be.

‘There’s a continual updating of the dataset. Keeping track of everything is difficult. Some countries will do lots of checking on their data then issue improved data, so it can be very difficult. We have improved but we have to improve more.’

He also agreed that there had been two periods which experienced similar warming, from 1910 to 1940 and from 1975 to 1998, but said these could be explained by natural phenomena whereas more recent warming could not.

He further admitted that in the last 15 years there had been no ‘statistically significant’ warming, although he argued this was a blip rather than the long-term trend.

And he said that the debate over whether the world could have been even warmer than now during the medieval period, when there is evidence of high temperatures in northern countries, was far from settled.

Sceptics believe there is strong evidence that the world was warmer between about 800 and 1300 AD than now because of evidence of high temperatures in northern countries.

But climate change advocates have dismissed this as false or only applying to the northern part of the world.

Professor Jones departed from this consensus when he said: ‘There is much debate over whether the Medieval Warm Period was global in extent or not. The MWP is most clearly expressed in parts of North America, the North Atlantic and Europe and parts of Asia.

‘For it to be global in extent, the MWP would need to be seen clearly in more records from the tropical regions and the Southern hemisphere. There are very few palaeoclimatic records for these latter two regions.

‘Of course, if the MWP was shown to be global in extent and as warm or warmer than today, then obviously the late 20th Century warmth would not be unprecedented. On the other hand, if the MWP was global, but was less warm than today, then the current warmth would be unprecedented.’

Sceptics said this was the first time a senior scientist working with the IPCC had admitted to the possibility that the Medieval Warming Period could have been global, and therefore the world could have been hotter then than now.

Professor Jones criticised those who complained he had not shared his data with them, saying they could always collate their own from publicly available material in the US. And he said the climate had not cooled ‘until recently – and then barely at all. The trend is a warming trend’.


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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 12:45:04 PM »

Is this the same Phil Jones that is famous for using modern instrumentation to measure the historical temperature record?

Or is it one of these other Phil Joneses, because, as you know, just anybody can claim to be a climatologist/scientist: 
 
Phil Jones (footballer), English footballer
Phil Jones (journalist), English sports journalist and television reporter
Phil Jones (Virgin Islands basketball player), NCAA basketball player and Virgin Islands national team member
Philip Jones (musician) (1928–2000), British trumpeter and brass chamber music ensemble leader
Philip Jones of Fonmon (1618–1674), Welsh military leader and politician
Phill Jones, New Zealand professional basketball player
Sir Philip Jones (civil servant) (1931–2000), Welsh businessman and civil servant
Sir Philip Sydney Jones (1836–1918), Australian medical practitioner
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2010, 12:50:47 PM »

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That "hockey stick graph" propagated by the left wing loony warmer hoaxers has been shown to be fraud to the core. Al Gore has become a Billionaire off this fraud and received a Nobel prize and an Oscar Award for heading up the hoaxers. INCREDIBLE!!! And for those of you that worship at the altar of peer review science, where was the peer review?

 
The now dubious "hockey stick" graph of temperature change with the emotive photo of polar bears
serving as the background for which Al Gore was awarded an Oscar and a Nobel Prize. Scientific data supporting
this graph cannot be produced to corroborate the data points. This scandal has cost British scientist and Al Gore
partner Professor Phil Jones his academic position and left a myriad of questions to be answered in the wake.





Al Gore receiving his global warming Oscar Award in
Hollywood under fraudlent pretences



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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2010, 01:08:07 PM »


NASA and every other reputable scientific organization would laugh at your claim.

The FACT that the planet has warmed since 1995 is indisputable. The only debate is why and to what extent humans have contributed to the warming.

Phil Jones is the climatologist equivalent of a Holocaust denying historian if he truly believes what you claim. I doubt that he does.

Nice job Mondo. 
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2010, 01:16:00 PM »

ANP INVESTIGATION: How to Spin Global Warming
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 01:18:34 PM »


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"It's the sun"
In the last 35 years of global warming, the sun has shown a slight cooling trend. Sun and climate have been going in opposite directions.

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"There is no consensus"
That humans are causing global warming is the position of the Academies of Science from 19 countries plus many scientific organisations that study climate science. More specifically, 97% of climate scientists actively publishing climate papers endorse the consensus position.

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"It hasn't warmed since 1998"
The planet has continued to accumulate heat since 1998 - global warming is still happening. Nevertheless, surface temperatures show much internal variability due to heat exchange between the ocean and atmosphere. 1998 was an unusually hot year due to a strong El Nino.

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"It's freaking cold!"
Since the mid 1970s, global temperatures have been warming at around 0.2 degrees Celsius per decade. However, weather imposes its own dramatic ups and downs over the long term trend. We expect to see record cold temperatures even during global warming. Nevertheless over the last decade, daily record high temperatures occurred twice as often as record lows. This tendency towards hotter days is expected to increase as global warming continues into the 21st Century.

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"1934 - hottest year on record"
1934 is the hottest year on record in the USA which only comprises 2% of the globe. According to NASA temperature records, the hottest year on record globally is 2005.

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"It's just a natural cycle"
The 1500 year cycles, known as Dansgaard-Oeschger events, are localized to the northern hemisphere and accompanied with cooling in the southern hemisphere. In contrast, current global warming is occuring in both hemispheres and particularly throughout the world's oceans, indicating a significant energy imbalance.

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"Human CO2 is a tiny % of CO2 emissions"
The CO2 that nature emits (from the ocean and vegetation) is balanced by natural absorptions (again by the ocean and vegetation). Therefore human emissions upset the natural balance, rising CO2 to levels not seen in at least 800,000 years. In fact, human emit 26 gigatonnes of CO2 per year while CO2 in the atmosphere is rising by only 15 gigatonnes per year - much of human CO2 emissions is being absorbed by natural sinks.

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There's no empirical evidence that humans are causing global warming"
Direct observations find that CO2 is rising sharply due to human activity. Satellite and surface measurements find less energy is escaping to space at CO2 absorption wavelengths. Ocean and surface temperature measurements find the planet continues to accumulate heat. This gives a line of empirical evidence that human CO2 emissions are causing global warming.

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"Volcanoes emit more CO2 than humans"
Volcanoes emit around 0.3 billion tonnes of CO2 per year. This is about 1% of human CO2 emissions which is around 29 billion tonnes per year.

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"Humans are too insignificant to affect global climate"
Atmospheric CO2 levels are rising by 15 gigatonnes per year. Humans are emitting 26 gigatonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere. Humans are dramatically altering the composition of our climate.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php
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