I'm Sure There Is Wailing and Gnashing Of Teeth ...

[Flummoxed Lummox]

among the homophobes (read conservative, white Christians) now that homosexuals are allowed to marry once again. 

(CNN) -- A federal judge in California on Wednesday overturned the state's ban on same-sex marriage, saying the voter-approved rule violates the constitutional rights of gays and RJ.

The 136-page decision, issued by Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker in San Francisco, is an initial step in what will likely be a lengthy legal fight over California's Proposition 8, which defined marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

At stake in the trial was whether California's ban on same-sex marriage violated the constitutional rights to equal protection and due process of two gay couples that want to marry.

The case was watched closely by both supporters and opponents of same-sex marriage, as many say it is likely to wind its way up to the U.S. Supreme Court. If it does, the case could end in a landmark decision on whether people in the United States are allowed to marry people of the same sex.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/04/california.same.sex.ruling/index.html?hpt=T1

[Dementia_Madness]

Not really.....
God is in control (either way), and sometimes we simply get what we ask for, if it sin and debauchery....he allows it, that's part of free will. However, this is a battle and not the war....activists judges, this one who just happens to be gay (but that had nothing to do with the decision) are actually showing the american people how dangerous they can be and gay people can celebrate this as a victory....as well they should, but it's far from the end of the road.
Whatever happens we get what we deserve...no worries, God is still in control.

[Sasquatch]

Notice that it took an unelected judge to overturn the vote of the people to get this liberal agenda-item "approved".

Since California is such a blue state, I wonder how many non-conservative, white Christians (did I get all of the profiling right?) voted for a gay marriage ban?  

As you can see, the dem election strategy is in full force. See item 4 for this topic.

Have you figured it out yet? Given the fact that the dems are facing unprecedented losses this November, the goal for 2010 is to increase minority turnout. One of the bases of the dems, minority voters, have become complacent with the election of a minority (or half minority) to the office of POTUS. So what better way to increase this turnout than to revamp the playing of the race card and victim card. Examples:

1. Sue the state of Arizona for its supposedly racist legislation (has Holder or Obama read the legislation yet?). This gets the attention of Hispanic voters and plays on them as victims of the police.

2. Accuse your opponents of racism. The NAACP has issued a proclamation citing the tea party as having "racist elements". Nevermind the unemployment rate of blacks, and particularly black youth. Nevermind that there are very few black families that have a mom and dad. The NCAA has chosen to go after mysterious spit wads, signs, and "N" word allegations even though there is no documented proof (other than the avowed Texas racist who shows up at all kinds of rallies with his N word signs and is then proclaimed to be a Tea Party "leader" by the MSM).

3. Increased hate-filled rhetoric and intimidation by black groups. This gets the fringe element of the blacks motivated. Wonder why the DOJ isn't pursuing an investigation into voter intimidation charges against the Black Panthers even though there is video evidence? This would be a negative to the lunatic fringe.

4. Ruling the same-sex marriage ban unconstitutional. This motivates the gays/lesbian wing of the party.
5. The DOJ will apparently investigate the police in Oakland because of the race elements. Guess who this should help that is in trouble in Cally?

Look for more of the same at least until November.

[NCVol]

Activist judges like the Roberts court ARE dangerous. I believe the Roberts wing of the SC has a 100%, perfect record of ruling for corporations against individual defendants and for the gubment against those suing the gubment.  So the activists are rewriting the rules in favor or large trans nationals and the behemoth feds.  The most notorious activist decision in generations was giving a piece of paper, aka a "corporation" the same rights as flesh and blood human beings. 

In this case, the judge wasn't an activist unless you interpret activist as standing up for human rights and requiring an actual reason for discrimination instead of just not liking gays all that much. 

[Sasquatch]

Activist judges like the Roberts court ARE dangerous. I believe the Roberts wing of the SC has a 100%, perfect record of ruling for corporations against individual defendants and for the gubment against those suing the gubment.  So the activists are rewriting the rules in favor or large trans nationals and the behemoth feds.  The most notorious activist decision in generations was giving a piece of paper, aka a "corporation" the same rights as flesh and blood human beings. 

In this case, the judge wasn't an activist unless you interpret activist as standing up for human rights and requiring an actual reason for discrimination instead of just not liking gays all that much. 

NCVOl, have you ever researched Elton John's views on this? Do it, you will be enlightened.

Has the activist Robert's court ever overturned the will of the people with their decisions? If so, then that is also wrong.

[MRM]

Again, the majority speaks their opinion and it's shot down by one person with authority that disagrees with the majority. Do you see what's going on here folks? Socialism is taking control. Being a democracy where the majority rules is no longer the norm.

[Jeremy Roenick]

Not really.....
God is in control (either way), and sometimes we simply get what we ask for, if it sin and debauchery....he allows it, that's part of free will. However, this is a battle and not the war....activists judges, this one who just happens to be gay (but that had nothing to do with the decision) are actually showing the american people how dangerous they can be and gay people can celebrate this as a victory....as well they should, but it's far from the end of the road.
Whatever happens we get what we deserve...no worries, God is still in control.

Too true.  God is in control.  And America will be judged for her lack of morality and secular culture.  This is why our economy and our way of life is doomed to collapse.

[Dementia_Madness]

An example of how when it serves his purpose FL uses the "majority opinion" argument, and when it doesn't he cares nothing for it...
My opinion, I am not in favor of a "majority opinion" rule, ultimate democracy is evil, and it ends up discriminating against minorities.
I am against it, and also against minorities ruling over a majority...I think rule of law should not be judged by what people want, criminals want to be able to commit crimes, and IF you support majority being able to tell what is right and wrong, eventually when the majority becomes as morally bankrupt as the minority (meaning that in a moral society less people want to be criminals than in am immoral one, not as in race)....your rule of law becomes just as bankrupt, that is why law must be based on something other than opinions, fairness, and feelings....but rather logic, truth, mercy, love, righteousness, and justice.

[NCVol]

NCVOl, have you ever researched Elton John's views on this? Do it, you will be enlightened.

Has the activist Robert's court ever overturned the will of the people with their decisions? If so, then that is also wrong.

Well, I did look it up, and he's for civil unions, believes that "marriage" is reserved for same sex couples.  But he's ignorant about the law.  There is a HUGE difference between "marriage" and a civil union, and it's in the thousands of rights AND obligations that accrue to married couples, including all the federal benefits and obligations, that do NOT accrue to those in a civil union.  A guy like Elton John and his "partner" collectively worth a few hundred million or more don't much care about the many rights that don't flow to his civil union, since he self funds anything that matters, including having his $1,000 an hour attorneys draw up the legal papers for inheritance and debts and rights to each others assets and obligations in the event of divorce, etc.  And I don't think having access to health care or getting to visit each other in an ER or ICU applies to people like Elton John, like they do to normal gay folks.  He's a member of the royatly for goodness sakes, Sir Elton John.  It's offensive for someone in that class to be making assumptions about what's "enough" rights for the proles.  

As to the Roberts court, sure.  Citizens United just overturned a century of the "will of the people" as expressed in rules governing corporate funding of elections.  The famous Lilly Leadbetter case was another - they simply said women don't get to sue if they don't know they've been systematically discriminated against (in other words, discrimination is fine, as long as the women don't find out about it!), and that horrific ruling was overturned by the Congress almost immediately.  Fact is the Roberts court favors the corporate over the individual and the Big Bad Behemoth Gubment over all others.  

[GRAY]

NC the unions are exempting themselves thru this administrration from any regulations that are passed.

But Roberts, Scalia and Thomas will have us all in concentration camps soon. got it.

[NCVol]

NC the unions are exempting themselves thru this administrration from any regulations that are passed.

But Roberts, Scalia and Thomas will have us all in concentration camps soon. got it.

I'd like a cite please.  Glenn Beck saying it's true doesn't make it so. 

And I didn't say the court would have us in concentration camps, that's an argument the loons on the right make about Obama.  Crazy fools.  Obama would be a hard right wing nut job in the GOP of the 1950s, but this moderate is the second coming of Adolph Hitler to you guys.  It's kind of funny, except you people get the same vote I do.... 

"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes that you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

President Dwight D. Eisenhower, l952

[Flummoxed Lummox]

NC the unions are exempting themselves thru this administrration from any regulations that are passed.

But Roberts, Scalia and Thomas will have us all in concentration camps soon. got it.

Don't you love how Gray can distort a well reasoned, complex line of thought into some pithy little platitude that is almost always off base and misrepresents your ideas? Nowhere did you say Roberts, Scalia, and Thomas will soon have us in concentration camps. 

It's like trying to reason with a fourteen year old who has ADD.  Lane