Nevada Senate Candidate Frames Issue of Government and Harry Reid's Role Dead On

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I didn't say that.  Fannie and Freddie definitely had something to do with the collapse. 

Barney Frank didn't, unless as minority member of the relevant banking committee controlled by the GOP from 1994-2006 he somehow controlled the agenda and the votes about regulating those entities, and was able to get both Clinton and the Bush WH to lay off regulating them, again, from his minority position on the relevant committee. 

Now Bush - part of his "ownership agenda" was to use GSEs to encourage "first time homebuyers" to get not only homes, but good ones!!  And he committed billions to that effort, and his regulators encouraged the lenders to make applying easier for those without good credits.

Only in the land of the GOP could a minority member of the house be the only scapegoat in the collapse, and could the regulators under Bush be totally blameless in the blowing up and collapse of the housing bubble.

I bet you didn't know that Bush sued the states to PROHIBIT them from cracking down on subprime lenders, claiming exclusive rights to regulate those guys.  He cited an 1800s era law to shut down state efforts to get lenders to comply with state laws on predatory lending. 

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I didn't say that.  Fannie and Freddie definitely had something to do with the collapse. 

Barney Frank didn't, unless as minority member of the relevant banking committee controlled by the GOP from 1994-2006 he somehow controlled the agenda and the votes about regulating those entities, and was able to get both Clinton and the Bush WH to lay off regulating them, again, from his minority position on the relevant committee. 

Now Bush - part of his "ownership agenda" was to use GSEs to encourage "first time homebuyers" to get not only homes, but good ones!!  And he committed billions to that effort, and his regulators encouraged the lenders to make applying easier for those without good credits.

Only in the land of the GOP could a minority member of the house be the only scapegoat in the collapse, and could the regulators under Bush be totally blameless in the blowing up and collapse of the housing bubble.

I bet you didn't know that Bush sued the states to PROHIBIT them from cracking down on subprime lenders, claiming exclusive rights to regulate those guys.  He cited an 1800s era law to shut down state efforts to get lenders to comply with state laws on predatory lending. 

2004 House Committee Hearing

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2004?  Seems the rethuglacraps had total control of congress....

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2004?  Seems the rethuglacraps had total control of congress....

Bill O'Reilly vs Barney Frank

In 2004, as regulators warned that subprime lenders were saddling borrowers with mortgages they could not afford, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development helped fuel more of that risky lending.

Eager to put more low-income and minority families into their own homes, the agency required that two government-chartered mortgage finance firms purchase far more "affordable" loans made to these borrowers. HUD stuck with an outdated policy that allowed Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae to count billions of dollars they invested in subprime loans as a public good that would foster affordable housing.

Housing experts and some congressional leaders now view those decisions as mistakes that contributed to an escalation of subprime lending that is roiling the U.S. economy.

The agency neglected to examine whether borrowers could make the payments on the loans that Freddie and Fannie classified as affordable. From 2004 to 2006, the two purchased $434 billion in securities backed by subprime loans, creating a market for more such lending. Subprime loans are targeted toward borrowers with poor credit, and they generally carry higher interest rates than conventional loans.

Today, 3 million to 4 million families are expected to lose their homes to foreclosure because they cannot afford their high-interest subprime loans. Lower-income and minority home buyers -- those who were supposed to benefit from HUD's actions -- are falling into default at a rate at least three times that of other borrowers.

"For HUD to be indifferent as to whether these loans were hurting people or helping them is really an abject failure to regulate," said Michael Barr, a University of Michigan law professor who is advising Congress. "It was just irresponsible."

Congress is expected to vote before its Fourth of July recess on legislation that would strip HUD of its regulatory authority over Fannie and Freddie and give it to a stronger regulator.

Fannie and Freddie finance about 40 percent of all U.S. mortgages, with $5.3 trillion in outstanding debt. Owned by private shareholders but chartered by Congress, they are exempt from state and local taxes and receive an estimated $6.5 billion-a-year federal subsidy because they can borrow money more cheaply than other investors. In return, they are expected to serve "public purposes," including helping to make home buying more affordable.

HUD officials dispute allegations that the agency encouraged abusive lending and sloppy underwriting standards that became the hallmark of the subprime industry. Spokesman Brian Sullivan said the agency and Congress wanted to increase homeownership among underserved families and could not have predicted that subprime lending would dominate the market so quickly.

"Congress and HUD policy folks were trying to do a good thing," he said, "and it worked."

Since HUD became their regulator in 1992, Fannie and Freddie each year are supposed to buy a portion of "affordable" mortgages made to underserved borrowers. Every four years, HUD reviews the goals to adapt to market changes.

In 1995, President Bill Clinton's HUD agreed to let Fannie and Freddie get affordable-housing credit for buying subprime securities that included loans to low-income borrowers. The idea was that subprime lending benefited many borrowers who did not qualify for conventional loans. HUD expected that Freddie and Fannie would impose their high lending standards on subprime lenders.

Banks typically back prime loans with customers' deposits. But subprime lenders often rely on money from Wall Street investors , who buy packages of loans as investments called mortgage-backed securities.

In 2000, as HUD revisited its affordable-housing goals, the housing market had shifted. With escalating home prices, subprime loans were more popular. Consumer advocates warned that lenders were trapping borrowers with low "teaser" interest rates and ignoring borrowers' qualifications.

HUD restricted Freddie and Fannie, saying it would not credit them for loans they purchased that had abusively high costs or that were granted without regard to the borrower's ability to repay. Freddie and Fannie adopted policies not to buy some high-cost loans.

That year, Freddie bought $18.6 billion in subprime loans; Fannie did not disclose its number.

In 2001, HUD researchers warned of high foreclosure rates among subprime loans.

"Given the very high concentration of these loans in low-income and African American neighborhoods, the growth in subprime lending and resulting very high levels of foreclosure is a real cause for concern," an agency report said.

But by 2004, when HUD next revised the goals, Freddie and Fannie's purchases of subprime-backed securities had risen tenfold. Foreclosure rates also were rising.

That year, President Bush's HUD ratcheted up the main affordable-housing goal over the next four years, from 50 percent to 56 percent. John C. Weicher, then an assistant HUD secretary, said the institutions lagged behind even the private market and "must do more."

For Wall Street, high profits could be made from securities backed by subprime loans. Fannie and Freddie targeted the least-risky loans. Still, their purchases provided more cash for a larger subprime market.

"That was a huge, huge mistake," said Patricia McCoy, who teaches securities law at the University of Connecticut. "That just pumped more capital into a very unregulated market that has turned out to be a disaster."

In 2003, the two bought $81 billion in subprime securities. In 2004, they purchased $175 billion -- 44 percent of the market. In 2005, they bought $169 billion, or 33 percent. In 2006, they cut back to $90 billion, or 20 percent. Generally, Freddie purchased more than Fannie and relied more heavily on the securities to meet goals.

"The market knew we needed those loans," said Sharon McHale, a spokeswoman for Freddie Mac. The higher goals "forced us to go into that market to serve the targeted populations that HUD wanted us to serve," she said.

But because Fannie and Freddie were buying mortgage-backed securities rather than the actual subprime loans, their involvement came too late to require stiffer standards from lenders.

Fannie and Freddie "made no progress in civilizing the market," said Sandra Fostek, a senior regulator at HUD.

William C. Apgar Jr., who was an assistant HUD secretary under Clinton, said he regrets allowing the companies to count subprime securities as affordable.

"It was a mistake," he said. "In hindsight, I would have done it differently."

Allen Fishbein, who was Apgar's adviser at HUD and is now at the Consumer Federation of America, said the agency failed to use its regulatory power by refusing to credit Fannie and Freddie for loans that were "contrary to good lending practices."

"They chose not to put the brakes on this dangerous lending when they could have," Fishbein said.

Fostek said the agency had no practical way to comb through the tens of millions of individual loans contained in the subprime securities.

She said that Fannie and Freddie did not overwhelmingly rely on securities to meet the goals but added that she would not disclose the amount counted because it is considered proprietary.

Fannie and Freddie spokespeople say their partners had agreed not to sell them loans with several prohibited characteristics, including credit insurance, excessively high costs and prepayment penalties that lasted longer than three years. But experts say the volume of subprime foreclosures proves they were toxic to borrowers.

Judith Kennedy, president of the National Association of Affordable Housing Lenders, said that while Fannie and Freddie nurtured unregulated subprime lenders, an estimated 30 percent of subprime borrowers could have qualified for safe, lower-cost prime loans.

"The damage to homeowners, to neighborhoods, to state and local governments as the tax base erodes, and now to all American taxpayers, is almost incalculable," she said.

Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), a member of the Senate banking committee who brokered some of the regulatory reform in the pending bill, said HUD's homeownership push ignored reality.

"We need to focus on putting families in homes they can truly afford, not just on getting a sale, packaging the loan into a sophisticated financial security and walking away to the next closing," he said. "Today, people are wondering, 'Why weren't the regulators and the industry probing these [loans] more deeply?' "

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If Harry "The Real Estate Quick Buck Mongul" Reid is re-elected we will have more Barney Frank Moments as the one seen above.

[NCVol]

First of all, seriously, we can ALL read type just like it appears without you blowing it up for your geriatric eyes.  If you have problem reading small type, in Firefox, you hit CTRL then the "+" sign.  CTRL then the "-" sign makes type as it appears on your computer smaller!  It's really easy, you can do it, we know you can! 


Second, I read that drivel and nowhere did it mention Barney Frank, and the FACT is the House, which as you know requires a bare majority, both in committee and for a final vote, was controlled from 1994-2006 (January 2007 to be exact) by REPUBLICANS.  From 2001 to January 2009, Bush controlled the regulators, including those regulating Fannie and Freddie.

So if you want to offer an article that talks about Barney Frank from his MINORITY post in the House blocking legislation supported by Bush and the GOP Congressional leaders, do it.  If not, quit wasting bandwidth posting a history of the subprime debacle that is offpoint and serves no informative purpose. 

I will give you credit for posting Billo's insane and delusional rant about how it was Frank from his MINORITY POSITION in the House who is the guy who caused the meltdown, giving Barney the opportunity to call him out for the utter rude, arrogant, ignorant fool Billo was on this issue. 

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[size=08pt]First of all, seriously, we can ALL read type just like it appears without you blowing it up for your geriatric eyes.  If you have problem reading small type, in Firefox, you hit CTRL then the "+" sign.  CTRL then the "-" sign makes type as it appears on your computer smaller!  It's really easy, you can do it, we know you can!  
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Second, I read that drivel and nowhere did it mention Barney Frank, and the FACT is the House, which as you know requires a bare majority, both in committee and for a final vote, was controlled from 1994-2006 (January 2007 to be exact) by REPUBLICANS.  From 2001 to January 2009, Bush controlled the regulators, including those regulating Fannie and Freddie.

So if you want to offer an article that talks about Barney Frank from his MINORITY post in the House blocking legislation supported by Bush and the GOP Congressional leaders, do it.  If not, quit wasting bandwidth posting a history of the subprime debacle that is offpoint and serves no informative purpose.  

I will give you credit for posting Billo's insane and delusional rant about how it was Frank from his MINORITY POSITION in the House who is the guy who caused the meltdown, giving Barney the opportunity to call him out for the utter rude, arrogant, ignorant fool Billo was on this issue.  

No matter how much vile invective you spew it will not change the fact it is not working. Read in business section in any liberal fish wrapper. The story is the same even in the liberal rags







The Obama unemployment numbers from his Department of Labor

 

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Well, I'd like for you to post an article from a right wing source, if you like, that details the role of Barney Frank in his minority position in the House dictating legislation both in committee and on the House floor.  Remember, it's a bare majority in the House.  GOP controlled it 1994-Jan 2007.  Bush controlled the Fannie/Freddie regulators from 2001-2009.  If you think the democrats subverted the GOP House and the GOP WH, explain how! 

It should be easy.  Since even liberal papers support your delusional theory... 

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Well, I'd like for you to post an article from a right wing source, if you like, that details the role of Barney Frank in his minority position in the House dictating legislation both in committee and on the House floor.  Remember, it's a bare majority in the House.  GOP controlled it 1994-Jan 2007.  Bush controlled the Fannie/Freddie regulators from 2001-2009.  If you think the democrats subverted the GOP House and the GOP WH, explain how! 

It should be easy.  Since even liberal papers support your delusional theory... 

What was that line James Carville demogagued so well? "It's the ecnonomy stupid!" It simply is not working.







The Obama unemployment numbers from his Department of Labor