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Jeremy Roenick:
Well, with the entire world turning up the heat on Iran, including all the war hawks from Gingrich on down.  And considering our Commander-in-Chief being caught candidly on mic at the G-20 last week expressing his sympathy with Sarkozy and his disdain for Netanyahu.  We have this development from Iran the other day.  This wasn't covered in many of the mainstream news outlets, therefore it was a mere blip here.  But I feel its a significant development in the whole Iran soap opera.

http://www.debka.com/article/21474/

Explosions in Iran sparked by failed bid to fit nuclear warhead on Shahab-3?

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November 13, 2011 – TEHRAN – Brig. Hassan Moghadam, head of Revolutionary Guards (IRGC) missile development and sections of its nuclear program, was killed in one of the two consecutive explosions that hit two IRGC bases 46 kilometers west of Tehran Saturday, Nov. 12. The official fatality figure is 32. Fourteen hours after explosions blasts could still be heard and fires raged. Debkafile’s exclusive sources report the bases are located in Malard, a town in the Shahryar district. The Moadarres facility was the first to be hit, while the second and bigger blast occurred at Amir-al-Mo’menin. Their force was such that the Iranian Red Crescent rushed 45 ambulances to the two facilities plus 23 buses converted to first-aid vehicles and a helicopter to evacuate the critically injured.

Now, there is this video on youtube showing the magnitude of one of these blasts.  Look closely at how large an explosion cloud it is in relation to the mountains in the background.  This was a huge blast.



Amateur video shows aftermath of huge explosion at Iran military base near Tehran

now, I believe one of two things happened here.

1. The Revolutionary Guard were as the story says putting a warhead on a missile and something went terribly wrong resulting in this huge blast.  Of course we have no idea of the casualties.  Either the numbers or who they were since this is Iran's media blackout per norm.

2. The Israeli MOSSAD saw the opportunity to take out a lot of key people in the Iranian nuke program and this was no accident.  If this is the case they may have just set back Iran's nuke ambitions significantly with the loss of key people.  With Israel feeling all alone considering who is in the White House, I wouldn't rule this out at all.  If so, it's a brilliant move by Israel to lessen the danger without resulting to an overt attack on Iran.

One thing is for sure, the tension in the ME is palpable.  If MOSSAD was involved in this expect Iran's proxy Hamas to take action.  Thus upping the ante.  Tensions could go even higher from here.  I applaud any action to setback Iran's nuke program that stops short of all out war.  I pray that steps can be taken to diffuse their nuke ambitions.  I only wish more Republicans would take this same stance instead of "flush the bombers" diplomacy.

NCVol:
I wouldn't object to anything except this:

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With Israel feeling all alone considering who is in the White House

I can't think of a single policy change that's taken place, except the current WH isn't getting all the way down on the ground to kiss their rears.  I'm a little tired of labeling anyone that takes the slightest pause at the policies of the far right wing of Israel an enemy or of questionable loyalty. 

Just Win:
Quote from: NCVol on November 13, 2011, 07:10:26 PM

I wouldn't object to anything except this:

I can't think of a single policy change that's taken place, except the current WH isn't getting all the way down on the ground to kiss their rears.  I'm a little tired of labeling anyone that takes the slightest pause at the policies of the far right wing of Israel an enemy or of questionable loyalty.  


And I can't think of an Administration in my lifetime that has been more hostile to Israel than the current one. You are simply mouthing DNC talking points. The kind that want Israel to go back to the pre- 1967 six-day war borders.

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during the G-20 summit, Obama and Sarkozy could be heard on an open mic complaining about Netanyahu, with Sarkozy calling the Israeli leader a “liar and Obama responding, “You’re sick of him, but I have to deal with him every day.” Reuters reported that Sarkozy also said, “I cannot bear Netanyahu.”

McCain said the “French have always been like that” toward the Israelis but suggested that the United States should know better.

“No one, not even [the] most ardent supporter of the president, can view the issue of Israeli-Palestinian issue and peace in the region as anything but a total failure as part of this … administration,” he said.

Jeremy Roenick:
NC, gingko biloba does wonders for the memory.  I suggest you pick some up.

This wasn't that long ago either.  Trial balloon policy change that was met with so much static Sir Golfsalot retracted...

Obama Speech Backlash on Call to Reinstate 1967 Mideast Borders

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-speech-backlash-call-reinstate-1967-mideast-borders/story?id=13639200#.TsB2Ola0aSo


Again, the point stands, the Obama administration has thrown Israel into an unsettled diplomatic state.  Expect the Israelis to defend their turf with our without us.

MRM:
And don't forget Biden's comments to Netanyahu on a visit to the U.S. last year.

JR, my guess is it's option 1. The Iranians don't seem to be the sharpest people when it comes to their weapons.

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